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SUICIDAL PLAYERS: A mannering analysis of the players of GoB
This report shows dissatisfaction and suggestion about players considered to be toxic in Game of Bombs. Included in this category are those who act in a harmful manner by impairing the experience of a match or by being aggressive with opponents in online games. Games were observed in normal game mode, with the objective of mapping the elements common to this type of player and providing subsidies for future research on the behavior of participants of Game of Bombs.
There are no established punishments to face these elements, but it is necessary to analyze if they are enough to curb the behavior and to be definitively adopted as a solution, in order to seek methods to try to recover this share of players. In this article will be presented the actions of these players. Also will be observed the definition of what is a toxic player, its main characteristics and how it can negatively affect a match and also other people.
Toxic players grow gradually with the success of other Game of Bombs players, by relating them to trolls.
For the realization of this report was made a survey with players dissatisfied with the toxic players in the game. After identifying that there is no rule about the analysis of suicidal players, I offer some suggestions to minimize this problem:
1. When the player dies on his own, that is, even if no one has made it happen. Must decrease the coins earned during the match and put them in the game, as happens with the pumpkin when it explodes.
2. Beginner (guest) players should not score kills, as happens when we are in a team squad.
3. No medals for guest players should appear.
4. Put some benefit, like those we receive daily as a bonus, for players who die less during the month (this should be discussed in more depth).
The behaviors identified are considered undue behaviors by most players who play honestly and seek happiness in the game. These behaviors can lead to poor performance of a player or team and make many of our players give up playing, for there are many trolls.
Full analysis in attached document.
Regards
@Excuse_Me @Gally @OmegaKnight @KCG_Ryuzero @Perfo
There are no established punishments to face these elements, but it is necessary to analyze if they are enough to curb the behavior and to be definitively adopted as a solution, in order to seek methods to try to recover this share of players. In this article will be presented the actions of these players. Also will be observed the definition of what is a toxic player, its main characteristics and how it can negatively affect a match and also other people.
Toxic players grow gradually with the success of other Game of Bombs players, by relating them to trolls.
For the realization of this report was made a survey with players dissatisfied with the toxic players in the game. After identifying that there is no rule about the analysis of suicidal players, I offer some suggestions to minimize this problem:
1. When the player dies on his own, that is, even if no one has made it happen. Must decrease the coins earned during the match and put them in the game, as happens with the pumpkin when it explodes.
2. Beginner (guest) players should not score kills, as happens when we are in a team squad.
3. No medals for guest players should appear.
4. Put some benefit, like those we receive daily as a bonus, for players who die less during the month (this should be discussed in more depth).
The behaviors identified are considered undue behaviors by most players who play honestly and seek happiness in the game. These behaviors can lead to poor performance of a player or team and make many of our players give up playing, for there are many trolls.
Full analysis in attached document.
Regards
@Excuse_Me @Gally @OmegaKnight @KCG_Ryuzero @Perfo
Comments
Depriving them of coins, not just guests, but all players. thx by comment
Regarding guests, they are simply that: guests. They log in and as with most gaming, they are not entitled to awards and merits that signed members are because they are in fact anonymous players. Winning plutonium, power ups, goals, and accolades as guests affords them no real gains, and makes a situation whereby certain advanced players can come in an play in an anarchic/gluttonous manner: depriving real accounts of said awards/accolades with no real benefit to themselves.
Am I alone in this thinking? I also realize that taking away the ability to get awards could simply further this anarchic behavior, but I am not sure I've got a good way to curb this style of play. Thoughts?
Yes, I understand that we will not change this in relation to the beginners (I commented this in the document) but there are some bad characters that enter, and this will harm the whole team. If you die alone, that is, without anyone who has harmed you. and you lose bonuses from that. It changes the way you think when you want to kill someone. And I also suggest have prizes for players who avoid that. Thx by comment.
depriving beginners of other prizes such as plutonium. No doubt it would be a good suggestion.
And it's annoying seeing guests take medals, perks, goals, etc., but it keeps the game competitive. I try not to kill players too much if I can tell that they're new, but I NEVER feel any guilt for killing a guest. I just think they're funny. No matter what they do in a round, it's all erased and amounts to nothing in the end.
I think the real problem is people who focus on ruining the game for certain players by constantly harassing them with new usernames/mocking in chat for no real reason. I think some trash talking is to be expected (and maybe even should be acceptable) in an online game, but some people take it to a whole different level. And that's not cool.
I'll try to answer all the raised points.
Reliably recognizing suicides is easy for a human, but it's hard for the game and requires AI. What the game currently counts as suicides is unreliable and mostly just a fun statistics. If we talk about the simplest case when a player dies and there is literally no one else around, then we can recognize it, but punishing for it serves no purpose (a player gained nothing and is already punished by dying). In situations when it matters, there is at least one other player around and it becomes complicated, simply looking at whose bomb exploded doesn't tell whether it's a suicide.
Players are already punished for suicides: they lose items and time on recovery. For a decent player, staying alive is supposed to be more efficient.
A question to all strong players: do you find it easier to win a medal when suiciding frequently or when trying to stay alive?
For weaker players suicide is often the only way to score against strong opponents. It should remain a viable tactics. Yes, being suicide-bombed and breaking a perfect score feels unfair an irritating for a strong player. But being repeatedly killed without retaliation feels even worse for weaker players. If we agree that repeatedly killing weaker opponents is OK (which it totally is), then we must agree that using any tactics to defeat strong opponents is also OK.
If we talk about suicides as trolling, then of course it's bad, not because it's a suicide, but because it's a trolling. Unfortunately, we can't prevent it because:
- punishing with score/medals/etc. won't stop trolls;
- it's impossible to formally define the boundary between normal killing and trolling. We don't want players demanding to ban each other for reasons like "he killed me 10 times in one round". So we use the simple rule: everything on the field is allowed (as long as a player doesn't follow another player to different servers). It's far from perfect, but it's the only practical way.
If you mean killing a low-rank player gives no score, then it will create a new kind of trolling: "I can kill you, but you won't gain anything from killing me, muhaha". More fake newbies will appear.
If you mean beginners should not gain score for killing, it just ruins the game for them.
About removing or unnecessary restricting guests it has been answered once and for all here: About guests and "fake newbies"
This gives more benefits to strong players who are already ahead. We avoid such things. If anything, we add something to equalize and help weaker players.
complicated ... So if no suggestions were fair, I think they should separate the novices from the other players. This works fine on the Russian server. They were to play in a private room for low levels, there anyone a novice could play, appropriate their techniques and learn. Once they were level, yes they could play with others. Because it is not fair to lose the prizes for people fakes.
Obviously you should give medals to those who die less, far from it are fallacies. So that would make a lot of people think differently, but that was not going to take away from the guests the effort to get those rewards. There is a lot of experienced player playing dirty, this would make them play cleaner. Far from it, they are fallacies ...
That will to encourage coward technic game and the distance Killing technic often hidden behind a block throwing bombs and sometimes waiting for their shield for maybe Attack.
those who play like that already have their rewards: their score / ratio. I don't find normal in addition to that they get without difficulty bonuses unlike players who dared to go into battle.
This will just put them at a disadvantage because they will have more bad scores and therefore no bonuses. It's just going to discourage them and change their techniques
And i think We will end up with two techniques:
- bomb chainer
- and remote kill techniques
that's why I'm against this idea
An alternate ranking system could be kills minus deaths. Say someone has 29 kills, 2 deaths; and another player has 31 kills, 13 deaths. Their respective scores would be 27 (29-2) and 18 (31-13). This would be interesting to see, but I think I prefer the current system.
The tiebreaker system works, when there is a tie, it wins what died less.
The rule of prizes would work for those who died less alone. In this sense:
That would be an idea to minimize the suicides of the more experienced players. I'm not saying that a player, avoid using his chain techniques or other skills to avoid dying for other players, and as a result, win the prizes. I just do not want him to die so much purposely, harming others.
But looking at the technical side with great depth, I come to the conclusion that it will be impossible to end this style of play. However, the only more viable way would be to separate the guests from the other players, not because they are newcomers, but because they are mostly toxic players, which do away with the game's harmonious environment.
Once they reach a certain level, level 4 using as an example, then they could play with the rest.
I'm not saying that the concept of guests are toxic players, wrong to think so, I mean that most of those who play as guests are toxic players, simply trolls. So a good way to play faster with other players would be to level up quickly and register to play with the rest.
This would be an option to end so many trolls
I also think that it would not be possible to end the trolls, but separate guests from the other players, as happens on the Russian server. it would be a good idea!
Another solution would be to prevent the trolls from taking such prizes; plutoniums and goals. And just be possible possible only when they reached a higher level and were recorded. So players would not trolls, would have more benefits.