Racism skin

Why is user _sergo_ allowed to have racist Ku Klux Klan skin which is white robe and white hood. is disrespectful to african americans and other races affected by loser KKK group. I could not get screen grab but it is KKK uniform, so disrespectful.
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  • edited October 2017
    Because this skin is so him :P No seriously, this has been mentioned before by other players and he's not the only one to use this repugnant skin kotz0.gif Since it still exists, I guess devs see no problem in it :trollface: ugly_gruebel_fuer_vera.gif
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  • I apologize for the existence of this skin.

    We do see it as a problem. We've removed the hood from the constructor a long time ago after the first complaint. No one can buy this hood anymore. We haven't removed it from players who have already purchased it.
  • So that leaves the comment of the topic starter still relevant and undealt with chojinfc.gif
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  • Excuse_Me wrote: »
    We haven't removed it from players who have already purchased it.
    Maybe you should. It remains offensive.

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  • Same goes for _z_ : t7it10g0kqkl.jpg
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  • Excuse_Me wrote: »
    I apologize for the existence of this skin.

    We do see it as a problem. We've removed the hood from the constructor a long time ago after the first complaint. No one can buy this hood anymore. We haven't removed it from players who have already purchased it.

    So you see hood as offensive but still allow players to keep racist hood?! That seems like very very stupid thinking. Unless of course you support KKK? I see no reason why should allow them to keep it other than supporting white nationalism. If they pay than just give them credit. Can't be hard to do the right thing and fight racism.
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  • If you're worried about hurting the feelings of racists then only make that hood show to user not to playfield.
  • _Salty_ wrote: »
    Excuse_Me wrote: »
    We haven't removed it from players who have already purchased it.
    Maybe you should. It remains offensive.

    You'd think that would be the correct outcome to someone not wanting to be patronize racism, right?
  • Would it help if it'd became impossible to make the hood white? The people who've purchased it can still use it but not in a clearly offensive manner.
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  • edited October 2017
    Hagelslag wrote: »
    Would it help if it'd became impossible to make the hood white? The people who've purchased it can still use it but not in a clearly offensive manner.

    Creative thinking :) I discussed it with Gally in DM. He has some ideas / views about this too. Maybe you should make him part of your idea? 104.gif Edit: make the hood rainbow-colored, that will teach them schadenfroh.gif
  • edited October 2017
    Hagelslag wrote: »
    Would it help if it'd became impossible to make the hood white? The people who've purchased it can still use it but not in a clearly offensive manner.

    Or flirting with the ideas of the KKK bangin.gifbangin.gif
  • KKK are evil because they are racist bigots.


    Which is worse
    1) to look like KKK but not act like the KKK
    or
    2) to not look like the KKK but to act like them?


    in last 30 days partial Chat log of

    @DILMA_ROUSEFF
    US_MIX 2017-09-26 16:02 i am a failed south american dictator
    US_MIX 2017-09-26 16:07 south america give me your money i will spend it on bribes
    US_MIX 2017-09-26 16:12 i am a failed politican from south america
    US_MIX 2017-09-26 16:21 stupid south american keyboard hacks
    US_MIX 2017-09-27 03:49 @goldenstate1961 must be south american he suicides
    US_MIX 2017-09-27 03:55 that was cheap @Shy_Guy you must be south american
    US_MIX 2017-09-27 03:55 yep south american taco
    US_MIX 2017-09-28 03:33 why so many south americans playing like assholes?
    US_MIX 2017-09-28 03:36 @WIXOSS why your people not have sportsmanship?
    US_MIX 2017-09-28 03:36 always suiciding, playing as fake guest being puto
    US_MIX 2017-09-28 03:36 people from your country @WIXOSS
    US_MIX 2017-09-28 03:36 they play like puto

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    _sergo_ [complete log]
    EUT 2017-09-17 09:26 .
    EUT 2017-09-17 15:19 .
    EUT 2017-09-17 15:40 eeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
    EUT 2017-09-17 15:41 d
    EUT 2017-09-17 15:57 o
    RUH 2017-09-22 17:26 bb da
    RUH 2017-09-23 16:11 br
    RUH 2017-09-23 16:11 gg
    RUH 2017-09-24 16:36 .
    RUH 2017-09-24 17:08 gg
    RUH 2017-09-29 09:21 ?
    RUH 2017-09-29 09:21 sergo very horosho
    RUH 2017-09-29 09:23 1 min
    RUH 2017-09-29 17:05 @ESPANYOL hi mr
    RUH 2017-09-29 17:10 good@ESPANYOL
    RUH 2017-09-30 08:43 ku bro
    RUH 2017-09-30 09:24 @_z_ sorry bro
    RUH 2017-09-30 09:24 i work)
    RUH 2017-09-30 09:24 gg
    RUH 2017-09-30 17:54 ДА
    RUH 2017-10-01 08:37 gg
    RUH 2017-10-01 08:53 @syme gg
    RUH 2017-10-01 09:30 lol
    RUH 2017-10-01 09:43 lol
    RUH 2017-10-01 10:15 k
    RUH 2017-10-01 10:31 very
    RUH 2017-10-01 10:35 gj
    RUH 2017-10-01 10:43 lool
    RUH 2017-10-01 10:47 gg
    RUH 2017-10-01 10:47 d
    RUH 2017-10-01 11:36 @_z_ br
    RUH 2017-10-02 05:42 izi rip
    RUH 2017-10-02 05:42 noob
    RUH 2017-10-02 17:38 very
    RUH 2017-10-02 17:40 hunt
    RUH 2017-10-04 16:24 к
    RUH 2017-10-04 16:51 пп
    RUH 2017-10-04 16:51 gg
    RUH 2017-10-04 17:07 bt
    RUH 2017-10-04 18:27 ?
    RUH 2017-10-04 18:28 very pro lol
    RUH 2017-10-04 19:01 pn
    RUH 2017-10-05 17:36 +
    RUH 2017-10-05 17:36 +++
    RUH 2017-10-05 17:36 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    RUH 2017-10-05 17:37 +-+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    RUH 2017-10-05 17:37 ++-+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    RUH 2017-10-07 12:37 gg
    RUH 2017-10-07 12:44 eeeeeeee
    RUH 2017-10-07 12:56 eeeeeeee
    RUH 2017-10-08 13:14 .
    RUH 2017-10-08 13:17 gg bro
    RUH 2017-10-08 16:04 @_z_ obs
    RUH 2017-10-08 16:04 1-0 i win
    RUH 2017-10-08 16:06 pfffffff
    RUH 2017-10-08 16:06 nooooo
    RUH 2017-10-08 16:06 vnn
    RUH 2017-10-08 16:08 da mr zi
    RUH 2017-10-08 16:09 zobs
    RUH 2017-10-08 16:10 _zobs_

    The only person you can control is yourself. If you really wanted to improve this game then please improve yourself, as this is the only person you can control.
  • I'd say they're both as bad gally...
    I don't know what you're trying to say here.
  • edited October 2017
    Hagelslag wrote: »
    I'd say they're both as bad gally...
    I don't know what you're trying to say here.

    I'm saying the *only* reason the KKK is bad is because they are racist bigots. If they were not racists bigots they would not be the KKK as we know them and they would not be bad.

    I'm saying that For many years the swastika was a symbol of peace. That symbol was co-opted by the nazis and is usually associated with them from westerners. However hindus and buddists still use the symbol today and it does not have that evil connotation for them.

    I'm saying if someone *looks* a certain way they should not be judged based on their appearances but they should be judged with righteous judgement - on what they do. You can see from both of their chat logs neither _z_ nor _sergo_ are racists.

    Another point that I can make is that a hood does not mean that someone is dressing like the kkk

    Consider -
    Executioner [the executioner was the medieval version of a judge. I.e. on the side of good.]
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    Ghost [white hands]
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    KKK without logo
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    kkk-ku-klux-klan-member.jpg?w=650

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  • I've added the least invasive solution: it's impossible to use white (or light-gray) color simultaneously for hood and clothing. If at least one of these things is sufficiently different from white, the character loses resemblance with KKK. The hood itself is not inherently bad and may be used without all-white clothing theme.
  • Gally wrote: »
    KKK are evil because they are racist bigots.


    Which is worse
    1) to look like KKK but not act like the KKK
    or
    2) to not look like the KKK but to act like them?


    in last 30 days partial Chat log of

    @DILMA_ROUSEFF
    US_MIX 2017-09-26 16:02 i am a failed south american dictator
    US_MIX 2017-09-26 16:07 south america give me your money i will spend it on bribes
    US_MIX 2017-09-26 16:12 i am a failed politican from south america
    US_MIX 2017-09-26 16:21 stupid south american keyboard hacks
    US_MIX 2017-09-27 03:49 @goldenstate1961 must be south american he suicides
    US_MIX 2017-09-27 03:55 that was cheap @Shy_Guy you must be south american
    US_MIX 2017-09-27 03:55 yep south american taco
    US_MIX 2017-09-28 03:33 why so many south americans playing like assholes?
    US_MIX 2017-09-28 03:36 @WIXOSS why your people not have sportsmanship?
    US_MIX 2017-09-28 03:36 always suiciding, playing as fake guest being puto
    US_MIX 2017-09-28 03:36 people from your country @WIXOSS
    US_MIX 2017-09-28 03:36 they play like puto

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    _sergo_ [complete log]
    EUT 2017-09-17 09:26 .
    EUT 2017-09-17 15:19 .
    EUT 2017-09-17 15:40 eeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
    EUT 2017-09-17 15:41 d
    EUT 2017-09-17 15:57 o
    RUH 2017-09-22 17:26 bb da
    RUH 2017-09-23 16:11 br
    RUH 2017-09-23 16:11 gg
    RUH 2017-09-24 16:36 .
    RUH 2017-09-24 17:08 gg
    RUH 2017-09-29 09:21 ?
    RUH 2017-09-29 09:21 sergo very horosho
    RUH 2017-09-29 09:23 1 min
    RUH 2017-09-29 17:05 @ESPANYOL hi mr
    RUH 2017-09-29 17:10 good@ESPANYOL
    RUH 2017-09-30 08:43 ku bro
    RUH 2017-09-30 09:24 @_z_ sorry bro
    RUH 2017-09-30 09:24 i work)
    RUH 2017-09-30 09:24 gg
    RUH 2017-09-30 17:54 ДА
    RUH 2017-10-01 08:37 gg
    RUH 2017-10-01 08:53 @syme gg
    RUH 2017-10-01 09:30 lol
    RUH 2017-10-01 09:43 lol
    RUH 2017-10-01 10:15 k
    RUH 2017-10-01 10:31 very
    RUH 2017-10-01 10:35 gj
    RUH 2017-10-01 10:43 lool
    RUH 2017-10-01 10:47 gg
    RUH 2017-10-01 10:47 d
    RUH 2017-10-01 11:36 @_z_ br
    RUH 2017-10-02 05:42 izi rip
    RUH 2017-10-02 05:42 noob
    RUH 2017-10-02 17:38 very
    RUH 2017-10-02 17:40 hunt
    RUH 2017-10-04 16:24 к
    RUH 2017-10-04 16:51 пп
    RUH 2017-10-04 16:51 gg
    RUH 2017-10-04 17:07 bt
    RUH 2017-10-04 18:27 ?
    RUH 2017-10-04 18:28 very pro lol
    RUH 2017-10-04 19:01 pn
    RUH 2017-10-05 17:36 +
    RUH 2017-10-05 17:36 +++
    RUH 2017-10-05 17:36 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    RUH 2017-10-05 17:37 +-+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    RUH 2017-10-05 17:37 ++-+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    RUH 2017-10-07 12:37 gg
    RUH 2017-10-07 12:44 eeeeeeee
    RUH 2017-10-07 12:56 eeeeeeee
    RUH 2017-10-08 13:14 .
    RUH 2017-10-08 13:17 gg bro
    RUH 2017-10-08 16:04 @_z_ obs
    RUH 2017-10-08 16:04 1-0 i win
    RUH 2017-10-08 16:06 pfffffff
    RUH 2017-10-08 16:06 nooooo
    RUH 2017-10-08 16:06 vnn
    RUH 2017-10-08 16:08 da mr zi
    RUH 2017-10-08 16:09 zobs
    RUH 2017-10-08 16:10 _zobs_

    The only person you can control is yourself. If you really wanted to improve this game then please improve yourself, as this is the only person you can control.

    Not surprised you change the subject of white nationalism and kkk skin and then try to shift focus of thread to me, seems like type of person you are gally. mods know countries that use fake guest so what harm is it calling them out? Canada does not play fake guest. They are not actual players because they have no account, therefore they do not matter. KKK is bad not because of racism which is bad but they f$ing killed people and strive to promote white nationalism. One or two chat logs does not show or deny racism. YES THE SYMBOL OF THE KKK HOOD IS RACISM. THAT IS WHAT THE HOOD STANDS FOR, you don't need to have a motive to enable racist tendencies. Just like the swastika is the symbol of the Natzi party BOTH ARE SYMBOLS OF BAD SHIT. I'm not sure how you can stick your head in the ground and say it is not. At least change the style of the hood. It's not like its that hard.
  • Gally wrote: »
    KKK are evil because they are racist bigots.


    Which is worse
    1) to look like KKK but not act like the KKK
    or
    2) to not look like the KKK but to act like them?


    in last 30 days partial Chat log of

    @DILMA_ROUSEFF
    US_MIX 2017-09-26 16:02 i am a failed south american dictator
    US_MIX 2017-09-26 16:07 south america give me your money i will spend it on bribes
    US_MIX 2017-09-26 16:12 i am a failed politican from south america
    US_MIX 2017-09-26 16:21 stupid south american keyboard hacks
    US_MIX 2017-09-27 03:49 @goldenstate1961 must be south american he suicides
    US_MIX 2017-09-27 03:55 that was cheap @Shy_Guy you must be south american
    US_MIX 2017-09-27 03:55 yep south american taco
    US_MIX 2017-09-28 03:33 why so many south americans playing like assholes?
    US_MIX 2017-09-28 03:36 @WIXOSS why your people not have sportsmanship?
    US_MIX 2017-09-28 03:36 always suiciding, playing as fake guest being puto
    US_MIX 2017-09-28 03:36 people from your country @WIXOSS
    US_MIX 2017-09-28 03:36 they play like puto


    The only person you can control is yourself. If you really wanted to improve this game then please improve yourself, as this is the only person you can control.

    Not surprised you change the subject of white nationalism and kkk skin and then try to shift focus of thread to me, seems like type of person you are gally. mods know countries that use fake guest so what harm is it calling them out? Canada does not play fake guest. They are not actual players because they have no account, therefore they do not matter.

    Who is changing the subject now?
    KKK is bad not because of racism which is bad but they f$ing killed people and strive to promote white nationalism.

    lol, thank you for proving my point. White nationalism is racism. They killed people because they were racists.
    One or two chat logs does not show or deny racism.

    Actually it took me less than 5 seconds [literally] to find your racist comment in your chat log.
    YES THE SYMBOL OF THE KKK HOOD IS RACISM. THAT IS WHAT THE HOOD STANDS FOR, you don't need to have a motive to enable racist tendencies. Just like the swastika is the symbol of the Natzi party BOTH ARE SYMBOLS OF BAD SHIT. I'm not sure how you can stick your head in the ground and say it is not. At least change the style of the hood. It's not like its that hard.

    Which just shows how ignorant you are of history.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika
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  • 1. the chat form you you decided to bring into public view to try to embarrass me was about fake guests, so it was not changing the sbjct on my part, again you decided to bring it up not me.

    2. So what does it with your reply Gally that you only listen to yourself and don't actually read what others say? You say i am ignorant of history but Nazi symbolism is the swastika! You can't say because "oh before Jesus walked the earth the swastika was oh so important". If you live in 2017, the Swastika has only one meaning the Nazi party and some retard racist named Hitler.

    The main symbolism of the swastika IS NAZI since the 1930's. Are you from a country where it has not progressed since the 1930's? So blabbering on about wikipedia while not actually reading the article makes it seem you just want to argue just to argue and embrace your KKK hats in the game.

    "in the 1930s, it became the main feature of Nazi symbolism as an emblem of Aryan race identity, and as a result, it has become stigmatized in the West by association with ideas of racism, hate, and mass murder.[5][6]"

    You sound like an apologist towards racism. This post is about the KKK hat that the developers built for the game and want to leave it in the game for no good reason. I'm not sure how bringing other shit up helps in any way?

    https://newrepublic.com/article/127242/klan-got-hood

    Maybe it's because your white and never had to deal with all the horror hard shit things that black people go through.

    So yes it is still bad idea to leave racist kkk looking hood in game.
  • 1. the chat form you you decided to bring into public view to try to embarrass me was about fake guests, so it was not changing the sbjct on my part, again you decided to bring it up not me.

    no need to be racist when you chat with anyone whether they are guests or not.
    2. So what does it with your reply Gally that you only listen to yourself and don't actually read what others say? You say i am ignorant of history but Nazi symbolism is the swastika! You can't say because "oh before Jesus walked the earth the swastika was oh so important". If you live in 2017, the Swastika has only one meaning the Nazi party and some retard racist named Hitler.

    The main symbolism of the swastika IS NAZI since the 1930's. Are you from a country where it has not progressed since the 1930's? So blabbering on about wikipedia while not actually reading the article makes it seem you just want to argue just to argue and embrace your KKK hats in the game.

    "in the 1930s, it became the main feature of Nazi symbolism as an emblem of Aryan race identity, and as a result, it has become stigmatized in the West by association with ideas of racism, hate, and mass murder.[5][6]"
    you forgot to keep reading

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika#Contemporary_use
    You sound like an apologist towards racism. This post is about the KKK hat that the developers built for the game and want to leave it in the game for no good reason. I'm not sure how bringing other shit up helps in any way?

    of course you don't. you would need an engineering degree to understand....

    And I have always been against racism that is why I said the KKK is evil.
    https://newrepublic.com/article/127242/klan-got-hood

    Maybe it's because your white and never had to deal with all the horror hard shit things that black people go through.

    So yes it is still bad idea to leave racist kkk looking hood in game.
    Well you're arguing for nothing there is no kkk looking hood in the game. Just a non-white hood.

    and thanks for the link I didn't know that :) Very interesting, but not relevant to Game of Bombs.
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  • You stated nazi symbol was not racist and kkk hood was not racist, both are still racist it is 2017 not 1500BC. so yes still relevant because there is still KKK hood in GoB, Maybe you missed the part where users are still able to use the racist white hood. If not if you scroll up and put screen on big monitor you can clearly see the KKK hoods still being used in the game!! !! :( !!

    Why need engineering degree? Neither developer here has engineering degree. You certainly do not have one. Confused as to why that s important? If dev can make hood not white for every other user, surely they must be at least intelligent enough to change color to black for people who own hood. It seems they are only worried about making other user angry over money not person who has right to be offended because of the color of their skin.
  • You stated nazi symbol was not racist and kkk hood was not racist, both are still racist it is 2017 not 1500BC.

    really? please quote me exactly and see where I so-called made this claim, that either "a nazi symbol or the kkk symbol are not racist". As I have already shown that in 2017 neither *of necessity* mean "nazi" nor "kkk" . Both nazi and kkk however are evil. But you seem to be confused because a symbol that you have assumed has universal meaning and the actual thing.

    And maybe you are confused because I said you were historically ignorant. That was probably bad wording on my part. Maybe I should have said "culturally unaware". So to be clear I am not talking about the history of the symbol but the current meaning today. My point of course is that a sybmol can and in this case does have more than 1 meaning.
    so yes still relevant because there is still KKK hood in GoB, Maybe you missed the part where users are still able to use the racist white hood. If not if you scroll up and put screen on big monitor you can clearly see the KKK hoods still being used in the game!! !! :( !!

    It is coming up to Halloween. I have seen toy ghosts in shops that have exactly the same head as the white hood. According to you those ghosts are in the Klan?
    Why need engineering degree? Neither developer here has engineering degree. You certainly do not have one. Confused as to why that s important? If dev can make hood not white for every other user, surely they must be at least intelligent enough to change color to black for people who own hood. It seems they are only worried about making other user angry over money not person who has right to be offended because of the color of their skin.

    They have already implemented a fair system. The onus of proof is on you to show that every instance of a white hood = kkk hood. I have already disproved this notion by counter-example.

    Since you have failed to show any of my arguments to be false. And I have clearly refuted yours. I would like to raise another argument. This one I am not 100% works and I figured maybe with your arguing against it, it will become clear to me why or why not it works or doesn't.

    New Argument.
    Claim: If someone in GoB dresses a KKK member then they are being offensive .
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    but if someone in GoB dresses as a monster then they are not being offensive.
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    The difference between the two are that the KKK really exists whereas the monster does not.
    If however we are going to take a Game so seriously that we get offended by what the game portrays then surely we should be offended by people who lay down bombs. Bombers really exist and they are represented in the game. therefore it is hypocritical to be offended by one but not by the other.
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  • Straight up defending people that want to have characters dressed as the KKK?
    Wow.
    New low.

    There's a really simple line here: Nazis/KKK/etc = bad

    That's it. That's all you need to know.
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  • QuietTime wrote: »
    Straight up defending people that want to have characters dressed as the KKK?
    Wow.
    New low.

    There's a really simple line here: Nazis/KKK/etc = bad

    That's it. That's all you need to know.

    That's the point . Neither _sergo_ nor _z_ are dressed as kkk and their chat log shows them to not be racist. I can only assume you are complaining about

    DILMA_ROUSEFF racist comment = KKK type comments.
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